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#21 Thu 28th Feb 2013 12:53 am

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

Ya Mon

Bringers and 5 Rites were back-to-back back when.

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http://www.nobledreams.co.uk/viewtopic. … 203#p20203

During spin, you focus on something, both of the above suggest the thumb, so that noted
is an SA Vibe.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21509

"It's not about fixing, it's about CHANGE"

YOU are in your Resurrection Creche: Synergizing duality;

The Hypothalamus is starting to secrete and the world / reality as you knew it is starting to dissolve.......

Dream the Dream of Your FUTURE SELF

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#22 Fri 15th Mar 2013 10:32 am

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

Another brief 'France' reference:

As I came out of sleep and a dream which I can't recall, I heard the words 'French Axis Stone,' although there's a possibility it could have been access instead of axis.

According to hyperdictionary.com:

Stone: 'Seeing stones in your dream, symbolizes strength, unity, and unyielding beliefs.

France: 'If you do no speak French and you hear French in your dream means a sensual and romantic part of yourself. It is often referred to as the language of love. Perhaps you are unwilling to understand or not giving enough attention to some waking relationship. Dreaming that you are speaking French means an expression of love.'

So... this could be interpreted as a reminder that a rock-solid intent to immerse ourselves in Higher (practical) love will enable the axis around which all else revolves/develops, or likewise it will lead to us accessing/unifying with Our Higher Selves.


'Tea is drunk to forget the din of the world' - T段en Yiheng.

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#23 Wed 8th May 2013 12:43 pm

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

The two representations of what I suspect to be my Higher Self/Greater Self appeared in this dream together (a brown haired male and a blond female) and I was watching them standing on the far side of a narrow ravine which was spanned by a little bridge that looked down into the river below. I was someway down the near side of the ravine (maybe about 20 metres) and as I looked up at the couple opposite I saw them throwing some little snacks down to a mischievous-looking grey monkey which was scampering around just above me. The couple seemed to be in good spirits and as they threw more and more food to the monkey it gradually got braver and eventually climbed up onto the bridge and crossed over to the other side.

Things then changed and I saw the blond woman waking up inside a large concrete tube (like the sort often seen on construction sites) and I realized she'd been transported there with a load of tomatoes - although I couldn't see any around her. Upon waking up she bounded out of the tube and looked full of happy expectation; as she shouted 'Hello!!!' a random man who was passing by punched her in the side of the head. She staggered back a step or two and as the scene panned out I saw she was standing in the middle of a dull-grey cosmopolitan scene which was filled with typically pre-occupied city folk who trudged along the streets.

Next, I was in a prison and looking at a man holding a gun who was surrounded by a circle of unpleasant-looking inmates, plus a few guards, and he was desperately shouting to them 'You've gotta believe me: I didn't kill my wife!!!' The main guard was humoring him with lots of 'Yes, yes, it's OK, no worries,' etc., and I as walked into the circle and took the gun off him I noticed the trigger seemed to be held in place with a little piece of tensed metal; I started to remove it but the man said 'I wouldn't do that; if you do that bad things will happen.'

Finally, I was back in my old senior school First Year class, and as was often the case me and some classmates were stood in a row while the teacher gave us yet another rollocking for messing around. On this occasion I hadn't done anything wrong and as I politely informed him I was innocent he added another punishment onto those already given, and the more I protested my innocence, the more punishments he added due to my refusal to admit my wrongdoings.


- Monkey: [b]'Seeing a monkey in your dream, symbolizes deceit people are working to advance their own interest.[/b] Monkeys also symbolize a playful and mischievous side of your own personality or an immature attitude. Seeing a monkey hanging or swinging from a tree indicates that you be troubled by young ones. Dreaming that you are feeding a monkey indicates that you betrayed by someone whom you thought cared about your interests.' - I think this can demonstrate having been led into making an intellectual error by those with a negative agenda - thus succumbing to a fall.

- Bridge: 'Dreaming that you are crossing a bridge means an important decision or a critical junction in your life. This decision will prove to be a positive change with prosperity and wealth in the horizon. Bridges represent a transitional period in your life where you will be moving on to a new stage. - Tempted by the false promise of a positive transition that promises 'positivity and prosperity'?

- Tomatoes: 'Seeing tomatoes in your dream, symbolizes domestic happiness and harmony. Dreaming that you are Seeing or eating tomatoes, foretells of good health.'  - The HS arrived into this realm full of positive expectation only to be rudely awoken as to the harsh reality of the realm it had been conned into entering (punched in the head). And the 'invisible' tomatoes symbolise the false promises made to her prior to the Fall.

- The scene in the prison could show the 'lower half' of our greater selves which is imprisoned here, and as such is led to believe (by the false doctrines of religious ideology, etc.) that we have committed a sin (original sin: the fall) - (killing our 'wives'/severing our connection to God); whereas in reality we are experiencing a temporary loss of awareness of our Higher feminine sides. I think the little strip of tense metal securing the trigger - and the man's fear at it being removed - shows how we have got the 'firepower' to shoot our way out of this situation, but due to conditioning we have been immersed into a mindset of fear which aims to hold us back from releasing our full potential.

- My teacher in the dream was in fact a real-life born again Christian who had been blinded in one eye and very nearly lost the sight in the other one - and due to gratitude at his sight being saved he found religion. Kind of understandable I guess, but here I suspect he represents the persecutory nature of mainstream Christianity and how it attempts to fool us into accepting that we are evil beings who have sinned - and subsequently Fallen due to those sins. Those who refuse to accept these accusations (heretics) are further punished for their insolence. His being blind in one eye could reflect Orthodox Christianity's recognising of some truths, while at the same time being blind to the essence that is at the core of the true, Inner Christianity.

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#24 Sat 11th May 2013 10:43 am

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

This dream starred the blond woman again and this time things began with me walking through my local ASDA (owned by Walmart) store, except I was the only member of the public in there and the staff were all engaged in pre-opening activities. I passed through the bakery section and saw a few ladies working together as they molded an intricately-designed human head, complete with a brain which I could see through the outer layer of the head. I passed them by and entered the groceries section before walking up to a young blond lady who seemed to be a supervisor-of-sorts. (I'm not sure if she was that blond lady.) As I stopped to speak with her I pulled out a front-door-type golden key and as I did so she motioned over to the other side of the room where I could see the large doors of what appeared to be a bank-type of safe. I said something like 'That's the secured safe, right?' and she agreed while acknowledging I hadn't actually used my key to get inside of it yet.

I then continued walking along and found myself outside of the store, only now I was back at my old infants & juniors school and stood outside the store on the edge of a green playing field which separated the infants and juniors (as is the case in real life). There was a brunette woman to my left and she just stood there without speaking, and as I looked ahead I noticed that the field extended way into the distance - in fact right up to the horizon - and there was a tall castle around a half a mile away. I commented: 'I would love to shoot an arrow right into the distance (towards the castle). I then looked to my right to where I expected to see the infants on a slightly elevated grass bank, but I was surprised to see instead the outer walls of another castle which was placed at a slightly greater height than the infants school should be. The walls were beautifully designed and they extended right along the length of where the school is in real-time, and as I stood there admiring them I was then transported into a little room (a bit like a treatment room) and I was laying back on a couch. The brunette woman was there, only she suddenly changed into a beautiful blond who had the whitest-blond hair I've ever seen. She asked me if I knew of a (apparently) well-known celebrity male, but seeing as I'd never heard of him I assumed it was some bloke who'd won The X-Factor or something similar and therefore I'd not paid much attention to 'news' about him. She said 'We are involved with him all the time at my work,' and I replied 'Oh, where's that then?' and she said 'I work at Loaded; I'm the editor of Oral Hygiene.' I thought to myself 'So, you're a dentist?' Upon telling me this she slowly bent forward with a pleasant smile on her face and softly planted a kiss on my lips, before pulling away again. At this point the dream ended.

Some initial thoughts:

The ASDA scene could have shown a preparatory process whereby 'we' are molded a certain way - prior to incarnation - and in so doing we then proceed through a series of pre-'planted' gnosis'/awakenings (vegetables in a dream can be associated with spiritual nourishment) that eventually take us to a point of opening our inner knowledge store (golden key/safe). So, in this case it's maybe showing I have yet to achieve this aim - and I feel this is emphasized by the following:

Archery: '    You are well organized, you have set your objectives and the means to achieve it. It seems that you are on the good tracks.' - Although seeing as I didn't have either a bow or an arrow in my possession, this perhaps shows a desire to achieve but as yet the means aren't yet fully in place - or at least are some distance away from being actualised.

Castle:  'Seeing a castle in your dream means reward, honor, recognition, and praise for your achievements. It foretells that your future will be a happy one, surrounded by the love of your children, generosity of neighbors, and comfort of friends.' - As with the former, the desired outcome is still some 'distance' away, although the castle then appearing close to me, only in an elevated position, maybe shows I need to elevate myself/vibes in order to access what is 'here' already. The infants school perhaps alludes to the need for the Inner Child to be put as a 'high' priority.

Dentist: 'Dreaming that you are at the dentist means periodic doubt over the sincerity and honor of some person. You may have some anxiety or fear of pain, but in the long run it will be for your own good.'

'Loaded' is a men's magazine in the UK; not the porno type though, it's more of an all rounder - like a Men's Weekly. Perhaps it's about my all round holistic well-being and how she (the H/S) is watching over my/our needs. Her being editor of the Oral Hygiene section could be related to the 'dentist' meaning above, and as such the kiss is a show of reassurance?

Also: Kiss:  'Dreaming of a kiss indicates love, affection, tranquility, harmony, and contentment. [...] If you are kissed by a stranger, then your dream is one of self-discovery. You need to get more acquainted with some aspect of yourself.'

I do have the occasional doubt as to the authenticity of 'the blond woman,' simply due to the fact so many people have been fooled by various entities over the years and so I'm just as liable to be targeted as anyone else. When I weigh up the sum of my experiences with 'her' I feel they are genuine and of a beneficial/positive nature, and when I have probed deeper during Gateway sessions I have found her to be a form of my HS. It still pays to be cautious though, and I will continue to re-evaluate matters on a regular basis because while I feel she/my HS is genuine throughout my experiences, that doesn't mean impostors won't try and 'get in there' too.

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#25 Sat 13th Jul 2013 10:43 am

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

I've had some rather dark and disturbing dreams recently and this latest one began with me not seeing anything except darkness all around me and I could hear the voice of a bossy male who sounded like a jumped-up little Hitler type. I sensed he was with a few others and he was talking to me as if I was one of them - as in one of his negative circle. He said 'You have to be hard with the prisoners, HARD! This is HARDBALL!!!'

Next, I was in a square-shaped dormitory-of-sorts (possibly a barracks) and my bed was one of four and placed on the right of the room from where I could see the door in the far left corner. I sensed the people in the other beds were asleep and I became aware that I wasn't what the 'people' in the first scene thought I was: I was just a regular guy who had somehow passed himself off as one of them and was living there undercover. I felt an object in my right hand and thought about how if I threw it at the door and then pretended to be asleep, then the negative people would wonder who had made the noise and be confused as why one of their own would be causing trouble. No sooner had I thought this then the door opened and a black-haired Caucasian woman quickly strode into the room and up to my bed, and when she got there she pulled out a water sprayer (like the kind with an adjustable nozzle that's used to water plants) and proceeded to squirt little jets of water onto me. I sat up on my elbows and said 'Hey, Hey! Hey!!! - WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!!' At the same time I realized the object in my hand was a small baby head - around the size of a large apple. Almost immediately after this I woke up.

The woman's expression had been blank but also had a sense of urgency about it.

Dreaming of a baby in your dream means innocence, warmth and new beginnings. Babies may symbolize something in your own inner nature which is pure, vulnerable, and/or uncorrupted.

Seeing a head in your dream means wisdom, intellect, understanding and rationality. It may also represent your accomplishments, self-image, and perception of the world.

I think the initial part of the dream relates to the PKD 'Black Iron Prison' meme and that the Fallen are prisoners who are subject to the 'hardball' tactics of the wardens. While the Fallen initially exist in a state of 'sleep,' they can begin to awaken to the truth that they are in fact not purely aspects of this negativity and that there is another (real) side to them which is positive & pure (the small baby: the early shoots of full remembrance).

The head of the baby may represent the growth of personal wisdom, true purpose, and awareness of the need to nurture the aforementioned 'baby' qualities until they blossom into full spiritual Being.

I think the urge to throw something at the door may mean our awakening catches the attention of the wardens who come and try to 'water down' our awareness. That particular 'warden' being a dark haired white woman could intentionally be the opposite of the blond haired white woman who has appeared in a positive guise numerous times in my dreams.

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#26 Mon 15th Jul 2013 01:07 pm

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

She sprayed you with a water bottle.. what a bitch tongue
Your analysis sounds spot-on! It's crazy how the subconscious can turn a simple thing we already know within ourselves into these long fragmented stories. Makes me think of how prisms react to light (if that makes sense).
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#27 Mon 15th Jul 2013 01:10 pm

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

SiriArc wrote:

Ya Mon

Bringers and 5 Rites were back-to-back back when.

29

http://www.nobledreams.co.uk/viewtopic. … 203#p20203

During spin, you focus on something, both of the above suggest the thumb, so that noted
is an SA Vibe.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=21509

"It's not about fixing, it's about CHANGE"

YOU are in your Resurrection Creche: Synergizing duality;

The Hypothalamus is starting to secrete and the world / reality as you knew it is starting to dissolve.......

Dream the Dream of Your FUTURE SELF

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Oh, SiriArc!!! That reminds me... My son told me not even 2 weeks ago that he figured out how to stay in a lucid dream if he didn't want to wake up & wanted to play in dream land more. He said he spins! smile

I wish i had his lucid dream powers. He is *really* good at it, been telling me awesome dream stories he's had since he was just a little thing barely able to walk. I'm not anywhere near as great as him when it comes to that thing, but i feel proud i helped create someone who is smile

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#28 Mon 15th Jul 2013 06:54 pm

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

Molly your boy is 'the man' by the sounds of it! He needs to get himself on here and start posting wink Seriously though, that is one trick I need to remember to try out the next time I have a lucid dream - maybe you too Solstice. What a neat idea and although it may be his own personal trick that just works for him, it's definitely worth a crack just in case it works for the rest of us. Either way, I think he has hit on an ingenious idea in using a physical technique to prolong lucidity, whereas I have only ever tried mentally/verbally telling myself to stay lucid - and with limited results. He could be a new Monroe in the making.


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#29 Wed 17th Jul 2013 12:39 pm

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

While this dreamed played out and I watched the main character, I had the distinct feeling I'd watched the same scenario unfolding two or three times previously, in fact it was as if I was seeing events on the second or third cycle of a loop. It seemed to go on for ages, yet upon waking I was only able to recall the beginning and then the final scene.

To begin with I saw someone who looked very similar to myself - with a goatee, before I then saw someone else (maybe the same guy/me) who was clean shaven except for a slight stubble in the goatee area.

After the long stretch of dream I can't recall, I saw the clean-shaven guy swimming underwater and this continued for quite some time. At one point he swam under a towering underwater archway that was constructed out of stone and as he entered the 'courtyard' beyond I saw the man with the goatee from earlier and he was sitting on a rock at the side of the courtyard. I think he must have been in an air bubble before as he saw the clean-shaven guy approaching he smiled, gulped in three large breaths of air and then pushed himself out into the water all around him and swam towards the other guy. I then assumed a viewpoint above the two of them and saw the goatee man catch up with the first guy and then begin swimming directly underneath him, at a point around 6 feet lower. After a short while I saw the goatee man had become limp and he seemed lifeless, although his body still moved along at the same pace as the clean-shaven man and it was as if he was somehow locked into the energetic 'sphere' of the man above him. At the same time I became aware of the name 'Michael' and I think the were approaching another tall archway that perhaps acted as the exit from the courtyard.

- The time loop part could be about the linear time loop that is 3D and how we may have 'seen' these circumstances previously via a Higher Self/beyond linearity view of the prison zone.

- The goatee could be the false 'face' we have grown onto our true identities while here. In the 90's I attempted a goatee which on reflection looked ridiculous, and I was reminded of this when seeing myself in the dream so maybe the point is our 'ridiculous' false identities - at least in the sense of how they mask our higher natures.

So 'clean shaved guy' could be about the Higher Self who is minus the false identity.

In all, I wonder if the lower/fallen self is shown as languishing in the submerged/lowered state of consciousness and the Higher aspects of ourselves reach down to show us the way out, only we have to make the effort to join in and 'swim in tandem.' The lower dying may be about the 'death' of the lower shackles so we can truly evolve/return to a higher state.

I've heard the name Michael used in a dream previously and back then I felt it was to do with the Archangel Michael - and I subsequently found this entry in Wikipedia:

'In the New Testament Michael leads God's armies against Satan's forces in the Book of Revelation, where during the war in heaven he defeats Satan.' - In this context, Michael could be about the Higher Self/Christ Consciousness that is manifesting in these times in order to rectify a corrupted timeline.


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#30 Thu 18th Jul 2013 12:40 pm

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Re: More 'Fall' Symbolism?

Hmmm... a time-loop sensation in this dream too.

The message in this dream was split over two separate parts:

Dream One:  I was with some friends and we were in a group tour walking around some old mine works, although all the layers were above ground as if an old mine had been dug out to show the workings & routes that had existed a long time ago. One of our group was an American lad and as we came to a section of the mine which was off limits he decided to carry on and climb up a ladder into a 'forbidden' layer up above. As he disappeared inside I could hear him walking around and when I checked if he was alright he told me he was OK. I looked to one of the tour staff nearby and just shrugged my shoulders and said 'He's American - I don't think he realized he's not supposed to go up there.' After a short while he came back down to our level and then we made our way to a cafe/giftshop area where he began to spend money on things for all of us, but I knew he'd only acquired this 'windfall' since going up to the higher level of the mine.

My immediate thought was that 'American' - as with another dream a while ago - might be to do with the phrase 'America, land of the free' in which case it could signify that by ascending to a higher level we can attain the 'riches' of spiritual freedom/remembrance, etc., and him then coming back down to share his new wealth could be about The Saved Saviour (Higher Self/Yang) returning to share knowledge/Gnosis with the Lower/Yin so they can in turn escape from the 'mined' trap of 3D.

Dream Two: From a high-up vantage point I looked down on a landscape with a big piece of machinery on it that had a series of vertical dials that looked like arcade 'gambler' displays/dials. I sensed the presence of an unseen entity above the machinery and realized that those who dwelled in the realm (myself included) were expected to work the machinery in order to produce a certain level of revolution within the dials - which the entity fed off. I found myself having a go and was able to mentally will the machine to work and as I hit the required speed of revolution within the dials I realized I'd already achieved this before and so 'willed' the machine to upgrade to level 2 production. I again quickly realized I'd already been there before and done that level and so willed the 3rd level of production to appear. As I again worked the dials faster and faster my vision began to scroll to the right and in so-doing I passed over a piece of land which was 'floating' high up over the landscape and was roughly in between myself and the ground. My recollection isn't crystal on what I saw, but do I remember something that resembled a small, flat, white triangle with rounded corners (I thought it looked a bit like a spacecraft, for some reason) and next to it were piles of multicoloured gems. I then heard the words 'Regal fractal particle.'

I guess this again is about the '3' of the Third Dimension (the three stages of production) and the negativity that presides over it while making us work in order to produce a certain levels of rotation/vibration (negative loosh?). It is by moving in the 'right' direction that we are able to see the possibility of a 'higher' state of being/higher landscape, which is where we can once again have access to our spiritual gems. The white triangle is something I'm unsure on; maybe the 'spaceship' factor could be about having broken free of the gravity of the lower realm in order to reach the higher. The words at the end could relate to the following: 'regal' (royal) as in the higher positive essence of our Being; 'fractal' is maybe about the true state of ourselves as geometric/fractal energies (see SiriArc's postings on 'geometric,' and 'particle' is perhaps about how we're individual/discreet particles of the Original Creation energy.

Also, SiriArc's Tree of Life diagram could relate to the triangle - in particular the point of cross over from where we are now into Higher. Not got time to post a link to it today.

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