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#11 Mon 20th Jan 2014 08:19 am

Valentine
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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

Wow.  The comments were interesting.


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#12 Thu 30th Jan 2014 07:08 am

SW
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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNuZ4OE6vCk
A conversation with Koko.

Comments here are interesting too. A lot of learning yet to happen in this world.

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HOPE is the thing with feathers   
That perches in the soul,   
And sings the tune without the words,   
And never stops at all        Emily Dickinson

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#13 Mon 3rd Feb 2014 08:33 am

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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

Indeed!


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#14 Fri 7th Feb 2014 05:12 pm

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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

I feel a tingle in the force, and feel that the whole wide world is awakening. There is still much suffering and horror, but hope grows stronger in me each day. We all are becoming the ones we have been waiting for.

I read that in Sochi they had hired exterminators to destroy all the stray dogs, and just a few years ago I remember reading how the stray dogs in Russia took trains and traveled right along with the people. Most people were kind to them and I don't remember reading that the dogs were a danger. There is a great amount of upset with this idea of "exterminating" fellow residents.

This story pops up as one of the first at Sochi - http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics- … 30166.html "Stray Dog finds it's way into the Opening Ceremony"

And the most liked comment left was this - I had to say I liked it too.

One time we were playing baseball and this dog ran onto the field. About that time the batter hit a lazy pop fly ball to short right field. The dog saw the ball and ran for it. The dog caught the ball in his mouth on the second bounce and ran toward the batter who was now rounding second base. He tagged the batter with the ball as if he was used to returning the ball in a game of catch. The umpire called him out in a joke. The batter's mom took it seriously and ran onto the field screaming. The other coach threw down his hot dog and stormed the field. The dog saw the hot dog and ran for the free meal. The ump, the mom and the coach got into a fight as the stands emptied onto the field. The ump called interference on the dog and ejected him from the game. We adopted the dog after the game. He lived with us for 11 years.

I am becoming more and more aware that animals are so very important, and can unite us all in a deeper more wonderful way than anyone ever imagined.

"We do not need magic to transform our world. We carry all of the power we need inside ourselves already." --J.K. Rowling

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HOPE is the thing with feathers   
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And sings the tune without the words,   
And never stops at all        Emily Dickinson

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#15 Mon 10th Feb 2014 08:10 am

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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

I love that story!


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#16 Thu 13th Feb 2014 01:21 am

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#17 Tue 18th Feb 2014 12:19 pm

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http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-anima … each-other



Elephants, both African and Asian, have long been considered empathetic animals. They help baby elephants stuck in mud holes, use their trunks to lift other elephants that are injured or dying, and even reportedly reassure distressed individual elephants with a gentle touch of their trunk. But it’s one thing to witness something that looks like consolation, and another to prove that this is what elephants are doing. Now, scientists have shown that Asian elephants do indeed get distressed when they see others in trouble, and they reach out to console them—just as we do when we see someone suffering. Elephants, thus, join a short list of other animals, including great apes, canines, and some birds, that scientists have shown to reassure others.

The study “is the first to investigate responses to distress by Asian elephants,” which “is inherently difficult to assess because one has to wait for opportunities to arise spontaneously,” says Shermin de Silva, a behavioral ecologist at the Uda Walawe Elephant Research Project in Sri Lanka. It would not be ethical to intentionally create stressful situations for the animals as a test, she notes—which is why, until now, researchers have had to rely on well-documented but anecdotal observations of wild and captive elephants to back up claims that they reassure each other.

Joshua Plotnik, a behavioral ecologist at Mahidol University, Kanchanaburi, in Thailand, and Frans de Waal, a primatologist at Emory University in Atlanta, got around this problem by comparing Asian elephants’ behaviors during times of stress to periods when little upset them. For 1 to 2 weeks every month for nearly a year, Plotnik spent 30 to 180 minutes daily watching and recording 26 captive Asian elephants. The animals ranged in age from 3 to 60 years old and lived within a 30-acre area of Elephant Nature Park in northern Thailand. Most of the elephants, aside from mother-juvenile pairs, were unrelated and did not live in family groups as wild elephants do. Instead, the park’s Mahouts, or keepers, organized them into six groups which they then guided through a daily routine—bathing and feeding them in the morning, and tethering them at night. But during the day, the elephants were left alone to roam and graze at will.

Plotnik watched the elephants during their free periods and recorded their reactions to stressful events, such as a dog walking nearby, a snake rustling in the grass, or the presence of an unfriendly elephant. Other researchers have previously shown that when upset, an elephant flares its ears and erects its tail; it may also trumpet or roar, or make a low rumble to show its distress. When elephants in the park saw another elephant behaving in this manner, the observers typically responded by “adopting the same emotion,” Plotnik says, “just as we do when watching a scary movie together. If an actor is frightened, our hearts race, and we reach for each other’s hands”—a reaction known as “emotional contagion.”

For example, in one event recorded on video (above), the female Mae Perm rushes to the side of another adult female, Jokia, who was upset after hearing the roar of a captive bull elephant in another nearby park. Both elephants push their ears forward and raise their tails—but Mae Perm does so only after seeing Jokia’s distress. Mae Perm also makes loud chirps, which are known to be reassuring calls, and then caresses Jokia with her trunk, finally placing it in Jokia’s mouth—an act which “might send a signal, ‘I’m here to help you, not hurt you,’ ” Plotnik says. Jokia, in turn, places her trunk in Mae Perm’s mouth—a gesture which is probably like a hug, the researchers say.

Sometimes several elephants were present when one was spooked by something. These bystanders typically reacted the same way, adopting the agitated behavior of the victim, as Plotnik calls the distressed individual, raising their tails, flaring their ears, and sometimes urinating and defecating while chirping. In some cases, they also formed a protective circle around the victim.

Plotnik recorded 84 such stressful incidents, noting where each occurred, the time of day, weather, and what other elephants were present—and how these individuals reacted. For a control, he compared these incidents with periods with as many matching variables as possible, but when nothing stressful occurred. The researchers’ subsequent analysis—reported today in PeerJ—showed that the elephants’ emotional contagion and distinctive, reassuring behaviors happened almost exclusively in response to some stressful trigger.

Most significantly, the elephants seemed capable of recognizing distress in their fellows, a behavior that may require empathy. “It’s that ability to put yourself emotionally into another’s shoes,” Plotnik says.

But proving that is what elephants are doing will take more studies, he and others say, and preferably in wild, not captive, populations. “What is unclear is whether this reassurance primarily benefits the distressed animal, or the responders,” de Silva says.

Nevertheless, the study “provides a very interesting first exploration” into the “post-distress behavior of elephants,” says Graeme Shannon, a behavioral ecologist at Colorado State University, Fort Collins, adding that the findings are “intriguing because they parallel what has been observed in captive and wild non-human primates, further underlining the complex cognitive abilities of elephants.”

Some think the work may aid conservation efforts. “Any good science that supports the idea that elephants are sentient beings capable of empathy is important,” adds Cynthia Moss, an ethologist and director of the Amboseli Elephant Research Project in Kenya, who has observed “reassurance behaviors” daily among the elephants there for more than 40 years.


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#18 Tue 18th Feb 2014 12:24 pm

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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

Amazing. Although I have never intentionally killed an elephant, I find it so hard to be a member of this species that has so mistreated our fellow companions. It hurts very bad. Perhaps that is a stage we must all go through, to grow our own souls.


HOPE is the thing with feathers   
That perches in the soul,   
And sings the tune without the words,   
And never stops at all        Emily Dickinson

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#19 Tue 4th Mar 2014 10:06 am

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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

http://shine.yahoo.com/pets/abandoned-d … 00231.html

After a California family moved away, their neighbors discovered they'd left their longhaired Chihuahua and a kitten behind. Neighbors could hear the pair in the backyard of their home, where they found the 1-year-old dog nursing the 5-month-old kitten she'd decided to adopt as her own.

They were brought to a local shelter, and arrived at the Helen Woodward Animal Center in Rancho Santa Fe, Calif., last week. Today, they'll be introduced to the public in the rescue's 2 nd Annual Doggie Gras Parade and Fat Cat Tuesday Celebration.

The two have been aptly named for their Mardi Gras debut - the pup is now called Beignet and her kitten son is known as Gumbo. "They love each other. That's all there is to it. It's not complicated," said the center's inventory manager, Labeth Thompson. "They needed each other and they were there for each other." The parade serves as the kickoff to find a new home where the bonded duo can live together. - Read it from the Helen Woodward Animal Center

lovely photos here - http://www.animalcenter.org/news/2014-M … n-Son.aspx


HOPE is the thing with feathers   
That perches in the soul,   
And sings the tune without the words,   
And never stops at all        Emily Dickinson

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#20 Wed 5th Mar 2014 07:42 am

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Re: 14 stories that prove animals have souls

So heartwarming!


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